Immorality (at McDonald's)!?
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Last month, I made a rare stop at McDonald's. McDonald's is not my favorite place to eat, but I was out voted by three of my children that were with me that day. A condolence for me was that I could get some of their sweet ice tea! Since it was a weekend, the lines were quite long and we ended up in line behind a group of teenagers. I was shocked at the behavior of these teens!
These teens, a group of about 8, were hanging all over each other. One couple was even kissing and putting their hand up each other's shirt. The boy pulled down the girl's pants to look at her tattoo on her butt! The other teens in the group were not much better. What was bad is that they were obviously in gay and lesbian relationships, and sharing partners. It is one thing to choose to have these type of relationships, but come on, do they have to be so bold in public? Isn't anything sacred anymore?
Immorality
The morality decline in our society has slowly and deceptively gone down hill. I believe that part of the reason for this decline is because we have taken out the consequences of wrong doing!
For example:
- Birth Control - We are now giving birth control to young teens because they might get pregnant. This is a way of allowing them to be promiscuous with the consequence of pregnancy.
- Gardasil Vaccine - Given to young girls to prevent the HPV cervical cancer. This cancer would not be wide spread if it were not for promiscuity.
- Hepatitis B Vaccine - Hepatitis B is primarily an adult disease transmitted through infected body fluids, most frequently infected blood, and is prevalent in high risk populations such as needle using drug addicts; sexually promiscuous heterosexual and homosexual adults; residents and staff of custodial institutions such as prisons; health care workers exposed to blood; persons who require repeated blood transfusions and babies born to infected mothers. Unfortunately, these vaccines are given to newborn infants who are still innocent because the ones who need this vaccine do not want to get it. Again, this vaccine helps to avoid a consequence.
- Abortions - Murdering an unborn baby because it "happened" at the wrong time!
- New HIV vaccine - This is a new vaccine that is still in testing. It is made to help wipe out HIV. If there were not promiscuity, fornication, adultery, and homosexuality, we wouldn't have this problem!
Besides sexual sins, we can also try to avoid consequences of gluttony and debt. We use diet pills and gastric bypass for quick cures of overeating. Credit cards are used to buy material goods we do not need which in the end increases our debt. These are just a few ways that our society tries to avoid consequences.
Morality
If our society is ever going to change, which I doubt it will totally, we as parents are going to have to start teaching our children better moral ways.
- Teach them that fornication and adultery is wrong. Instead of taking away the consequences, teach them what the consequences are. Let them know they will have to face those consequences and deal with them if they choose to do this wrong.
- Protect your teen. One of the biggest mistakes parents make is by letting their teen get into tempting situations. Mainly, don't allow your teen to be alone with the opposite sex! How can we tell them this is wrong and then allow them to put themselves into those positions?
- Teach your child...yes, this starts at a young age...to dress modestly. Immodest clothing is tempting to the opposite sex.
- Teach your children good eating habits. This can be a hard one, especially when the parent already has bad eating habits. Teach them that God has given us our daily food and we should be thankful for whatever he provides.
- Teach them how to save their money and how to spend it. Don't give them credit cards! If you do this you are teaching them they can have whatever they want, when they want it. It feels good to save your money and buy what you want outright. No debt!
Lastly, if you teach your teen "anything", teach them how to act in public places, like McDonald's. The majority of people do not like to see them making out, especially when there are little ones around!
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Sciantel, I am glad I know Him too! Thanks for reading!
I agree with you completely - by not having consequences we are allowing kids and others to act irresponsibly. I think that's one of the biggest dilemmas in this country is the increase in society not willing to take responsibility for their actions. This has been tremendously helped along by our government!
I agree with carli the government is trying to control the attitude of children toward their parents by making certain behavior permisable and if the child gets pregnant as a result they don't even have to consult with their mother in order to have an abortion.In fact,the government loves the fact that many mothers are working and leaving their children in the hands of daycare. The government gets more income tax and the mothers are providing jobs to other mothers who take care of their children.Children don't see enough of their mothers from birth on anymore these days. Except for mothers like you who home school them.Children learn best from those who are looking out for them rather than just baby sitting them and seeing that as just a job.
Your hub gave me goosebumps. I think now I am even more anxious however! lol just kidding, my daughter on her own chose to go to a Christian college and has better morals than I thought I could ever teach a teen, I would be mortified to see a teen act that way in public..... i remember being mad as a teen at my parents for being so strict. Then when I got into the world on my own I remeber the phone call home thanking my parents for not allowing me to be "like them" We may fight at first, but a good strict upbringing is enlightening when we get out on our own two feet. it isnt about being a friends to our children, it is about being a role model, a guidance councelor, a drill sergent! That is what a parent does, is.... good hub I enjoyed it!
This is a good hub about morality and immorality among teens. It is just sad to know that these things are happening in our society. But parents should realize that the development of a child starts at home. This means that parents does not only provide for their children, but they should also prepare them to become responsible adults when they grow up. I hope many families can read this article to remind them of the right values and principles in life.
Teens always have had a rebellious nature. They want to shock and cause awe, and they want to stand out as being outside the realm of normal, and outside the realm of normally accepted social behavior. The difference is that this has gone to the extreme, as you described, and I think its deplorable. I think, for this reason, putting police back on the beat EVERYWHERE is what we need to do. Get them out of their cars, get them off of the highways looking for speeders, and let's get our community and our society back to where it needs to be.
Great hub.
Do you remember a time where every kids parents were your parents? If you got caught doing anything--your parents knew before you got the front door open! Those days have changed-some times it is due to poor parenting-those parents that are suffering 'conditions' and then their are other parents who openly approve of this behavior because they do the same...the world has gone mad..that is what I think truly....This is what happens when GOD gets the boot-and God is taken from the world-the schools-everywhere...People have turned their backs on God--everywhere...the world has gone mad!
Number four, teach your children to eating healthily. So why in the world were you taking them to Macdonalds? If you teach them that Mcdonalds is a "treat" then it demonises good, healthy, fresh food that they should enjoy eating.
I don't agree that "moral decline is caused by taking away the consequences of wrong doing." You do know that heterosexual, married, polite, modest, healthy eating, christian people can also get HIV, hepatitus, pregnant or cervical cancer? What are they being punished for?
And what about colds and influenza? Is that God punishing people for sneezing without a tissue and going outside in the cold?
Pahahahahahahaha this so funny! You should have your own chat show! hahahahahaha!
Revsmith - I do teach my children healthy eating, but I also teach them moderation in all things. We can enjoy McDonalds food once in awhile, but since it isn't the best for us, we do not do it very often. Besides, they don't go there for the food as much as for the play area.
I do not know of a good Christian person with moral values who has gotten any STD or pregnant without demoralizing their values. Kinda hard isn't it? The only way to get HIV would be through a blood transfusion or being born to a mother with it. I don't think they are being punished, but God is allowing them to have that lot in their life and it is something that they will have to deal with...just like Paul in the Bible had a trial that he had to live with.
As for colds and flu...we are born into a sinful world and our bodies are not perfect...therefore, we get sick. It isn't a punishment, but life in a sinful world with an aging body.
Are you really a Rev? Scary!
Hm...I just think that yes, though people should have morals they live by, they can also make it harder for themselves to actually enjoy living in the amazing world God gave us by viewing everything through this lense of "a sinful world".
Yes, we should strive for the greater good, yes we should endeavor to live good lives and do our best to help those in need, but our lives are also for living freely. The world is what it is, and I think if we jade ourselves by presupposing it is sinful then we also close ourselves off to many of the simple things God meant us to enjoy in it.
Obviously I am a different kind of Christian from you, all I ask is that you consider my points honestly, truthfully and logically, and that you don't reject them without good reason.
Revsmith,
I believe that God has given us this world to enjoy too! There are so many good things that He has created. In Him we have all kinds of freedoms, but Satan wants to deceive us that partaking of sin is freedom...it is NOT. The things I spoke of in my hub are not simple things that God wants us to enjoy. Yes, he created sex -- in the realm of marriage (a man and a women). When done this way, we do not have the consequences of STD's, premarital pregnancy, etc..
Yes, you must be a different kind of "Christian" if you willingly partake of sin. In my opinion, this is not Bible based. I have considered your points, honestly, truthfully and logically! But, I do have to reject them because they go against the Bible! Sorry, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
revsmith in your first comment you say that SpecialK3749 implies HIV, hepatitus and so on are punishment for sin. She never says that, she says they are consequences of sin. We can all agree that even a cursory study of the Bible will show that adultery and fornication are sins, Exodus 20:14 and Galatians 5:19. If as a society we take away the consequence of that behavior then we are telling our people that it is not so bad to do this. Even my young children understand consequences. If they spill their juice box on their lap, they will have wet clothes and have less juice to drink. If I have an endless supply of clean clothes and new, full juice boxes then they don't learn that careless behavior has any consequences. Do I punish them for being children and/or making mistakes? No, I simply let them live with the consequences. If we take the consequences of adultery and fornication we are telling our society that it's okay. STDs(HIV, HPV Cervical Cancer, Hep B) and extramarital preganacies are some of these consequences.
In your second post you said that people make it harder to enjoy living by viewing everything through this lens of "a sinful world." Well, Romans 5:12 says "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Also 1Peter 5:8 says "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" These scriptures both tell me that that the world is full of sin and I had better make sure that I am careful.
I was also thinking about the second paragraph of your second post and I thought of a single mom taking care of the child that she had when she engaged in the sin of premarital sex. One of my biggest joys is watching my children laugh and play. She should also enjoy this simple pleasure in life but she will also have the added difficulty of not having a helper in raising that child. A difficulty that under most circumstances she would not have if she had not engaged in sin.
zoo2here, thanks for stopping by and commenting! I love your explanation to Revsmith! Thank you!
I agree with zoo2here- it is important to understand that our actions have natural consequences. And STD's, unplanned pregnancies, and emotional damage can be natural consequences of our actions. While I do not believe that illnesses and hardships are a punishment, I do believe they exist because we live in an imperfect world. They exist because sin exists. Does that mean that "Mr. Smith" got cancer as a consequence of a sin he's committed? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Does that mean he is a bigger sinner than "Mr. Miller" who does not have cancer? Also ABSOLUTELY NOT because if that were the case then there would be far fewer murderers and pedophiles out on the streets. But cancer in the world exists because sin in the world exists. Suffering in general exixts because sin exists.
An occasional trip to McDonalds is a treat. Eating there every day is an issue. 1 Corinthians 10:23- "All things are permissable, but not everything is beneficial." Teaching our children moderation is both possible and important.
I can't agree, however, that there isn't a place for the vaccines simply because they do protect innocent people who are not partaking in risky behavior. An example of this is my husband, who is an RN in the jail. Unfortunately for him, contracting HIV or HepB from a dirty needle is a very real possibility, and therefore these vaccines are an invaluable method of prevention for him and others in health care.
All in all, a well written and well supported hub. Thank you for sharing.
Wendy, First I have to agree that we live in a sin fallen world and not all sicknesses are from wrong doing. But, there are some cancers that "are" a result of wrong doing. For example, a person who abuses tobacco can get lung cancer, alcohol abuse can cause liver cancer,etc.. I think that this is for each individual to decide for himself whether or not he/she is actually doing a sin.
As for vaccines, I do believe that if I were in a hospital setting I would also get them! Your husband needs them for his safety. What I don't understand is people giving them to their children who are not even sexually active, (an infant gets Heb B when just days old!). Same thing with the Gardisil vaccine, it is to protect young girls "before" being sexually active. In my opinion they are taking away a consequence of sin. Instead they should be teaching the child against the sin.
Thank you for reading and commenting! I really appreciate all comments.
Getting the vaccine doesnt take away the "punishment of sin" it help to prevent you from getting CANCER... I am 19 years old never had sex and some how got the HPV virus. I wish that I had recieved the vaccine but i didnt because i wasnt sexually active and there was "no chance" that i would get it but i did. Also my grandmother never drank... really strong church of christ woman... she got liver cancer... cancer is a reality its not a punishment for sin. viruses are a reality and to use medicine thats out there to prevent them is SMART not a gateway to sin. I agree that raising you teens in a moral manner is a good choice, but i also think giving them information and protection against the sins that are out there is an even better choice because someday mommy wont be there to hold their hand... as a college student, i know that the ones that party the hardest and get the std's and get pregnant the most are usually the ones sheltered to the point of ridiculousness and now the are "FREE". but i do agree that your scene at mcdonalds was not appropriate for a public place.
Rissa - I'm so sorry to hear about your cancer. I do not believe that all cancer or sicknesses are a result of sinnning. Other than we were born in sin and our bodies are aging, etc.. I have a friend who has lung cancer and she has never smoked a day in her life.
On the other hand, the majority of the disease I talked about in my hub are from being sexually active outside of marriage and there are consequences to that. I am not going to take those consequences away from my children. They will learn that if they do those things, they will have to pay those consequences. Hopefully, that will deter them from it when they are on their own.
I do not agree that the "only" kids who get into trouble are the ones who are sheltered. I believe ANY child can get into this trouble if they do not have a loving relationship with God. That is the main thing! If we teach our children to live for Him and everything they do to glorify Him, then I believe they will turn out much better.
Thank you for your comment and helping out with a discussion!
This Hub is fantastic!! I love it. I agree wholeheartedly with every word you wrote. Brilliant!
Thank you, James!
I am a Christian and I think you are being heartless. We all make mistakes and who are you to judge people. My half sister DIED from cervical cancer when she was only 31 years old. She wasn't promiscuous and she only had one sex partner. She died a terrible death. I mean she was so skinny and sick before she died. I was there, I was there. Nobody deserves that. You have to be a coldhearted person to think that. Premarital sex is wrong but how can you have no compassion. Do you know how terrible AIDS is? What if one of your kids made a mistake when they became older. Do they deserve to die? What about girls in the 1950's and 60's that made mistakes and were sent away to give up their babies.These women suffered decades because of this. Please read the Girls Who Went Away. This is one of the reasons I am having doubts about Christianity because people like you are so harsh.People will mistakes and you think they should die? I might as well kill myself.
I am sorry to hear about your sister! Not all cancers are a consequence of sin. There are many types of cervical cancers. The ones that the vaccine gardisil protects against are the type that you contact from promiscuity. I am not saying that all people who contact cancer get it because of sin. But, giving our children a vaccine that takes away the consequece of a sinful action is not right.
If we (as a society) would get back to Biblical morals, a lot of these sicknesses would not be around. One of those morals is abstinence...sex between two married people (a man and a women).
I do not wish death on people who sin, and death is not always the consequence...sometimes it is just a guilty conscience. But, whatever it is, it is time to step up and say... "I made a mistake and now I have to deal with it". For example, if one of my daughters came home and told me she was pregnant, I would do everything I to help her get through the pregnancy. I would not want her to get an abortion (see my hub on abortion couldhttp://hubpages.com/hub/Abortion-Risks-or-Dangers- )or give her baby away. She would still have to go through the pain of having the baby, haveing to get up early in the morning to feed the baby, and even skip a few social events because she has a baby that needs taking care of. In other words, she is going to have to do all the hard things it takes to raise a baby. I would still love her and the baby and would be here for her whenever she needed me! She is going to have to admit that she did something wrong and be willing to not do it again.
Thanks. I was sad and angry so I was kind of a jerk.You don't have to be necessarily promiscuous to get these diseases. There was a woman who gave an AIDS talk when I was in high school and she said she was only with her fiance and he gave her AIDS. Even if a person was promiscuous I still feel sorry for anybody who have a death sentence.
edwardianbeauty - Yes, it is a sad thing to have to see anyone go through these things. God ordained sex inside of marriage and when people think that they can have sex outside of marriage, there are consequences to pay. Our children really do need to be taught to obstain till marriage! Thank you for your comments!!
I'm not even going to comment on your close-mindedness of what you (and most of the commenters) are saying here. Because you clearly have your mind made up about the fact that anyone who has a different lifestyle than the one you chose is a "sinner".
But your line "Isn't anything sacred anymore?" made me laugh. Yes by all means let's protect the sanctity of McDonalds.
Also you might want to reconsider if you really want to go back to biblical morals.
It's not all "let's abstain from sex till mariage". Some of the biblical morals that you praise include acceptance of slavery (even of a man selling his daughter or sister into servitude), discrimination, racism, punishing children for crimes of the parents, the subjugation of women, honor killings, religious wars etc.
With a God like this, who needs Satan?
Yeah, "only certain cancers are from sin"...the other cancers, God made because....?
I LOVE how idiots fail to consider the fact that God, in His great omnipotence, created the entire universe, everything in it, AND...sin. AND...Satan. AND EVERYTHING.
ITS ALL OR NOTHING. You have neither the evidence nor the luxury to sit back behind your computer and try and pick and choose what God "did" and "did not" make. By default, HE MADE EVERYTHING.
GOOD. BAD. BEAUTIFUL. UGLY. RAPE. TORTURE. INCEST. DISEASE. DEVASTATION.
So easy to gloss over that fact, yes? To try and only think of the "nice" things He made, so as to forget how truly vicious, and utterly without remorse, He really can be.
Yes, God created sin.
Yes, God created Satan.
Not to test you, but to get some sick, twisted enjoyment from watching you suffer, endlessly. He doesn't answer your prayers, because to do so would interfere, and it is so much more exciting to watch those with hope, slowly, surely, lose it in an endless struggle for survival in a world DESIGNED, by GOD, to slowly kill us all, without exception. Often, typically, with great fear and suffering.
He created Lucifer, whom He knew wold rebel--because He is GOD, and KNOWS ALL.
He allowed Lucifer to rebel, knowing full well the consequences, so that mortal Man and his sex-slave, Woman, could go through Hell on Earth before he let them rot in Hell itself.
ONLY those who have SERVED Him well--who have Tortured in His name, who have Killed in His name, who have beaten down the women who have tried to stand up for themselves, who have subjugated and destroyed countless nations--all in HIS name--for HIS glory--these He takes to His twisted bosom, to live for all eternity at His side, watching with great glee the endless torment of those who had lived in peace and wisdom and kindness, before His minions wearing black came to destroy their lives.
He promised to not "interfere" so that He could have the full satisfaction of putting His precious, precious children, through the most heinous experiences that He,in His vast creativity, could conceive of.
God and Satan, are on the SAME SIDE.
Two sides of the same coin. Satan cannot, by his very nature, exist without the ALLOWANCE OF GOD'S WILL.
Satan is God's fall guy. His scapegoat. His excuse to behave as badly as He wishes, yet still eagerly devour the energy of your praise, your pleas, your emotional prayers in the hope of help. His help. Which is ever withheld from you.
The most powerful being in the entire universe of creation, and yet He has opposition so powerful as Satan?
THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS.
Either you have to admit God has the power to remove Satan, and sin, immediately from this universe, if He so chose; or you have to admit that HE DOESN'T WANT TO, DOESN'T CARE TO, OR HE TRUTHFULLY CANNOT.
If He doesn't want to, then He created us simply TO suffer.
If He doesn't care to, then He is indifferent to our suffering.
If He cannot, then He is not nearly as "All Powerful" as you have been led to believe.
He is at the very most, a sadistic deity.
He is at the very least, impotent.
Most likely, He is somewhere in-between, paying attention only to those who stroke Him the right way--His little people whores, gratifying His greedy hunger for Praise, for Worship, for our very life-essence offered up to Him to feed on for millenia.
No God of love and Compassion would do THIS, any of THIS, to any of His beloved creation. This is NOT a creation of Light and Love, this IS a creation of cruelty, of sin, as you so correctly see all around you.
He has the power to CHOOSE what HE calls sin. If He so chose, He could make the very act of BREATHING, a sin. For all you know, He already has.
Wouldn't that explain the terrible air we now have here?
Yes, He has sought to punish us for HIS sins.
The sin of Pride--since He must gloat to Satan constantly about how powerful He is, how YOU will do ANYTHING He asks, even murder your own children!
The sin of Sloth--creating us to do His bidding, creating an entire race of slaves.
The sin of Lust--since He got another man's wife, Mary, pregnant. Ha! Not even God Himself can keep it in His pants ;)
The sin of Envy--since He must live vicariously through His creation.
The sin of Gluttony--since He can never have enough, more and more children we must create, for Him to feed off of.
The sin of Greed--since He cannot bring Himself to spare any of His great power to end the suffering within His own creation.
The sin of Wrath--since He must punish those who break His rules, with fire and pain and misery, for all of eternity.
Yes, He is, in fact, the perfect personification of every evil Man is, Himself, but Glorified.
What a LOVELY excuse for all the evil in this world, all the immorality, for which humanity will take no personal responsibility--not as long as there is a god or devil to blame, instead.
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Sciantel 2 years ago
It is so sad I know but there is Someone they will have to answer to. Us all. I am glad I know the Lord.